[Fiat car adorned with flowers and surrounded by people at 18 Rutland Square (now Parnell Square), Dublin]
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In collection: | Hogan Photographic Collection. |
Format: | Photo |
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Circa 1924.
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Notes: | Research by our Flickr Commons users established the location of this photograph at 18 Rutland Square (now Parnell Square)in Dublin. Additional information about this photograph is available on the National Library of Ireland's Flickr Commons photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/9962402584/ Physical description: 1 photographic print ; 20 x 15 cm. more |
What's all this then?
Photographer: W.D. Hogan
Date: Circa 1924??
NLI Ref.: HOG199
P.S. Off on my travels tomorrow (though not in such fantastically adorned transport), so next photo will be in a couple of weeks. Please mind the shop while I'm gone...
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Comments
Spidra Webster
Does the top say "Fiat"?
Posted: 27.09.2013
DannyM8
YI 1 to YI 9999 (Apr 1921 - Mar 1927);
So relatively soon after 1921
I bet the car is a Fiat,
Posted: 27.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@79549245@N06 Unfortunately we don't have motor directories for the 1920s, so no way to check the registered owner.
Posted: 27.09.2013
DannyM8
I think it is outside 45 Merrion Square
Posted: 27.09.2013
derangedlemur
Parnell Square matches the door surround.
Posted: 27.09.2013
derangedlemur
@79549245@N06 There's only 5 thingies above the door there. There's six in the picture.
Posted: 27.09.2013
derangedlemur
It's nearly like 11 Parnell Square but not quite. Rats.
Posted: 27.09.2013
derangedlemur
Maybe the writer's museum? maps.google.ie/maps?q=18+Parnell+Square+East,+Dublin&...
It also has the arch with the necessary squigglemajigs.
Posted: 27.09.2013
derangedlemur
The people all look a bit disgruntled.
Posted: 27.09.2013
Niall McAuley
@8468254@N02 Yes, I'll vote for the Writers museum. you can see the little vent over the first window next door, and the bottoms of the brackets holding that fake balcony thing .
Posted: 27.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@8468254@N02 Oooh, I'd be very happy with that location! Six thingies over the door, arch with the necessary squigglemajigs, shadow of the balcony above, and car (give or take crowd getting in the way) heading into the turn to go down Cavendish Row...
Posted: 27.09.2013
Niall McAuley
If you look closely, the number 18 is in the fanlight, too!
Posted: 27.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
So, Location Identified tag added (thank you @8468254@N02 and @79549245@N06 / @gnmcauley for confirmation!)
@91549360@N03 suggesting something like the launch of the new Fiat 501s for the Why?
Maybe part of a bigger parade or celebration?
Posted: 27.09.2013
Niall McAuley
in the 1920s. no. 18 was a Technical Institute of some sort:
Name: MCCARTHY, CHARLES JAMES
Building: CO. DUBLIN, DUBLIN, PARNELL SQUARE, NO. 018 (TECHNICAL INSTITUTE)
Date: 1914
Nature: New technical schools 'at rear of Rutland Square North' for City of Dublin Technical Education Committee. Tenders invited, Apr 1914. Builder: A. Frazer & Co, Dublin & Bray.
Refs: Freeman's Journal,9 Apr 1914; IB 56, 19 Dec 1914, 689
Name: ROBINSON & KEEFE
Building: CO. DUBLIN, DUBLIN, PARNELL SQUARE, NO. 018 (TECHNICAL INSTITUTE)
Date: 1932
Nature: Tenders invied for erecting fire escape for City of Dublin Vocational Education Committee.
Refs: IB 74, 4 Jun 1932, 526
Posted: 27.09.2013
O Mac
Maybe Paddy's Day Parade?? though the first Saint Patrick's Day parade held in the Irish Free State was held in Dublin in 1931--- a bit late for the car model.
Posted: 27.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@91549360@N03 Well, negative/photograph numbers can be notoriously unreliable - depends who numbered them and when, BUT this Hogan photograph above which we thought circa 1924 is numbered 199. AND this Hogan one, definitely Monday, 17 March 1924 is numbered 184...
Usual caveats apply - investments can go up as well as down...
Posted: 27.09.2013
Niall McAuley
This was called Rutland Square until 1933.
Posted: 27.09.2013
Niall McAuley
Historical Chronology of the Dublin Institute of Technology (a .pdf file)
Technical School, Rutland Square
In 1905 12 Rutland (later Parnell) Square was acquired by the TEC and 18
Rutland Square was acquired in 1912. This latter site became for some 50
years a centre for commercial education and the teaching of domestic
economy, mainly at the second level. Courses offered in the early years
included book-keeping, accountancy, business methods, economics, com-
mercia! correspondence, commercial arithmetic, commercial geography,
shorthand, typewritil;lg and retail grocery. Over the following years courses
in Irish, French, German, health and life insurance, actuarial work and
commercial law were added.
In 1915 the school of commerce in the Rutland Square school introduced
a scheme to draw employers into the technical education system so
as to provide a wider range of employment opportunities to students. With
the involvement of employers in course design and work placement, day
courses, initially for boys but later in the 1920s for girls as well, were
developed in business methods and in shirt and clothing manufacture.
Posted: 27.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@gnmcauley So it was, Niall! Never knew that before - added Rutland Square to tags.
Posted: 27.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
The first Tailteann Games took place in 1924 - bet there was lots of parading then.
Posted: 27.09.2013
ccferrie
@nlireland the six thingies are called triglyphs, the gaps between them are called metopes and they together form the frieze which in turn, together with the architrave below, forms the entablature. I think the squigglemajigs could be called tendrils (Here endeth the architectural lesson!)
Posted: 27.09.2013
Joefuz
I think I prefer squigglemajigs to tendrils.
Posted: 27.09.2013
DannyM8
Have a great break
Posted: 28.09.2013
nisar_zahir
so oldy
Posted: 28.09.2013
rubenlyall
Excelente
Posted: 28.09.2013
blackpoolbeach
While the Boss is away on holiday, why not have a look at Military Archives.
www.flickr.com/photos/militaryarchives/?details=1
They need answers about Bren gun carriers, armoured cars, uniforms, Cavalry Corps motorcycles, pipe bands, Army School of Music, etc.
Posted: 28.09.2013
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
ThE SqUiGgLeMaJiGs (Guttae) LiMeRiCk The entablature is (if you please) Formed by the architrave and frieze, With triglyph and metope - Methinks there is no hope Of seeing the wood for the trees.
Posted: 30.09.2013
martindevlin
The vehicle in the photo would appear to be a Fiat 501 (1919-1926) which was the first model produced after WW1
Link www.autoevolution.com/cars/fiat-501-1919.html
Pure speculation on my part but could this have been the first Fiat car in Ireland after WW1 Vehicle reg YI would have been used Apr 1921 - Mar 1927 during this time 9999 vehicles carried the YI prefix and judging from the clothing it is possible that this image was taken during the summer of 1921.
Posted: 02.10.2013
mambo1935
grace!
Posted: 30.10.2013
olivier.jeannin
Love it
Posted: 30.11.2013
Abaraphobia
This is something to do with Michael Collins' funeral in 1922, I'm sure -
'Fiat' being Gaelic for 'Fierce'.
Posted: 09.02.2014
worldsfair39
@60329026@N07
That sounds pretty possible to me. I saw the floral FIAT on the roof and thought it was a celebration relating to the car. :)
Posted: 18.02.2014
dr. motte
i <3 old photos like this one.
It tells a story compare to a digital snap shot with a smartphone ;-)
Posted: 27.02.2014
Ulterior Motive Vax - Just Say NO!
This car is actually from Fiat, the Italian automobile manufacturer.
Fiat 505 - models produced between 1919 and 1925
This car is more robust than a Fiat 501
www.cartocci.com/#!classic-vehicles/photostackergallery0=8
&
www.autoevolution.com/engine/fiat-505-1919-23.html
Posted: 27.02.2014
MITCHTYEAH!
so many hats!
Posted: 16.03.2014
thomasradford68
just love B/W well done
Posted: 26.05.2014
Artaxerxes2008
The letters on top of the car spell FIAT, YI 1 to YI 9999 was the license plate code for Dublin from April 1921 to March 1927, the decorations on the car suggest some sort of procession (perhaps funereal), the number above the door seems almost readable (perhaps "18").
Posted: 26.05.2014
Abaraphobia
I feel like I'm talking to myself, a lot of the time.
Posted: 26.05.2014
sixpounder
@abaraphobia "I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered together at the White House, with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone."
~John F. Kennedy at a dinner honoring Nobel Prize winners of the Western Hemisphere, 29 April 1962.
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Posted: 22.08.2014
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
I have just added this photo to our 100,000+ Views Album which now has 9 entries.
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/sets/72157651599255125]
Posted: 11.08.2015