Cumann na nGaedheal candidates. Dublin City North :
Vote for the five - Mr. Patrick Belton, Mr. J.J. Byrne, B.A., B.L., Mrs. Collins - O'Driscoll, Gen. Richard Mulcahy, Mr. Vincent Rice and give Cosgrave a solid majority.
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Dublin,
Mr. P.F. O'Reilly Solr., 66 Dame St., Agent for the Candidates
1933
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| Notes: | Additional information about this photograph is available on the National Library of Ireland's Flickr Commons photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/53411297355 Physical description: 1 handbill : ports., 22 x 28 cm. more |
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Pamphlet volume D144 [Item 75] |
One of the great joys of voting under our Proportional Representation system is that you get to rank the politicians from 1 to 10, 11, or 100 in order of your preference. Here, you have a choice of 5 and some fairly interesting names at that. No doubt the other parties have similar lists?
Photographer: Unknown
Collection: NLI Ephemera Collection
Date: 1933
NLI Ref.: D144
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Dublin, Ireland, Leinster, National Library of Ireland, Ephemera, National Library's Ephemera Collection, minor transient documents, Everyday Life, 20th Century, Election pamphlet, 1933, Cumann na Ghaedhal Party, 5 candidates, Dublin North Constituency, General Richard Mulcahy, General Election
Comments
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
**SPOILER ALERT**
irelandelection.com/election.php?elecid=22&constitid=16
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_North_(D%C3%A1il_constituency)#1933_general_election
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Mulcahy is, I think, the only one I've head of, and the only one elected.
But ten bucks says that the others have relations in the Dáil to this day.
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
Belton has a wiki page:
Belton later provided a strong Catholic voice in an Irish nationalist context throughout his career. He was strongly anti-communist and he was a founder and leader of the Irish Christian Front. Supportive of Francisco Franco,[1] Belton however opposed Eoin O'Duffy taking an Irish Brigade to Spain, feeling that they would be needed in Ireland to counter domestic "political ills".
Posted: 21.12.2023
DannyM8
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Belton was a name that was elected many times.
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
Wikipedia pages on both Belton and Rice say they were elected in 1933, contrary to the irelandelection page and wiki's own election result page linked by the beachcomber above.
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
Ah, Collins-O'Driscoll is a daughter sister of Michael Collins. [edit: the da was also Michael]
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/79549245@N06] Yes, from his wiki page: On 2 October 1912, he married Mary (Molly) Fitzgibbon, a civil servant from Limerick who had been working in London; they had four sons.Three of them – Richard, Jack and Paddy – served as members of the Oireachtas, and also his granddaughter, Avril Doyle.
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
More Collinses:
Michael Collins (1890–1922): SF TD Cork South 1918–1921, Cork Mid, North, South, South East and West 1921–1922
his cousin Gearóid O'Sullivan (1891–1948): SF TD Carlow–Kilkenny 1921–1923, CnaG TD Dublin County 1927–1937
his sister Margaret Collins-O'Driscoll (1876–1945): CnaG TD Dublin North 1923–1933
his nephew Seán Collins (1918–1975): FG TD Cork South-West 1948–1957, 1961–1969
his grandniece Nora Owen (born 1945): FG TD Dublin North 1981–1987, 1989–2002
his grandniece Mary Banotti (born 1939): FG MEP Dublin 1984–2004
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
Those Beltons:
Patrick Belton (1884–1945): FF TD Dublin County 1927, CnaG/FG TD Dublin North 1933–1937, FG TD Dublin County 1938–1943
his son Richard Belton (1913–1974): FG Senator 1969–1973
his daughter Avril Doyle (born 1949): FG TD/Senator Wexford 1982–2002, MEP Leinster/East 1999–2009
his son Jack Belton (died 1963): FG TD Dublin North-East 1948–1963
his son Paddy Belton (1926–1987): FG TD Dublin North-East 1963–1977
his nephew Luke Belton (1918–2006): FG TD/Senator Dublin North-Central/Dublin Finglas 1965–1987
his first cousin once removed Louis Belton (1943–2023): FG TD/Senator Longford–Westmeath/Longford–Roscommon 1989–2002
Posted: 21.12.2023
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@30369211@N00/ That (wholly imaginary) ten bucks going in the post to you today! Fascinating lineages...
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
Streetview of Yarnhall Street, Dublin 1. The only building on the North side is Ardiff-Mahon Printers
Posted: 21.12.2023
Dún Laoghaire Micheál
J.J Byrne a prime candidate for finance portfolio, per Dublin Evening Telegraph 31 May 1919
Posted: 21.12.2023
Dún Laoghaire Micheál
IT 11 May 1933
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/91590691@N05] So JJ Byrne BA, BL, photographed in a barristers wig for the poster, was actually a haircutting supplies shopkeeper?
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
66 Dame Street still has a Solicitors office above an Abra Kebabra, but not in the name O'Reilly.
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
There is also a firm of Solicitors called Patrick F. O'Reilly One Of Dublin's Longest Established Solicitor Firms based at 10 Sth George's St, and none of the partners are called O'Reilly, so it could be the same outfit?
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
Mulcahy's address, Lissonfield House is gone, there are apartments/townhouses there named Lissenfield (Streetview)
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
From the DIB article on Belton, I learn that he named Griffith Avenue, where my mother grew up, likewise Collins Avenue.
He sounds like a piece of work, the dib calls him Hysterically anti-communist... Loudly anti-Semitic
THe dib also mentions that he lived at Belfield Park, Drumcondra, as on today's poster, but I can't locate it.
Posted: 21.12.2023
John Spooner
Londonderry Sentinel editorial - Saturday 21 January 1933:
We believe it the desire of the responsible leaders of all parties that it should be a free election. Unfortunately, there is evidence that in parts of the country concerted efforts are being made to interfere with that freedom. Widespread attempts have been made to prevent Mr. Cosgrave’e supporters from putting their views before the electorate. ln many places election posters have been torn down. Attempts have been made to frighten timid voters whispered threats that the ballot is not secret.And at an 'Enthusiastic Meeting' of Cumann na nGaelhael in Waterford, reported in the Waterford Standard - Saturday 21 January 1933:
A Voice—They can’t turn down the men of Waterford (cheers). “Keep away from these merchants of untruth,” concluded Mr. Quinlan, and don’t tear down their election posters as they have torn down ours” (prolonged cheering). "Meanwhile, in other 1933 election news, in Barcelona, "Shots were exchanged to-day between the opposition parties plastering election posters", but the 1933 election which dominated the British press was the one in Germany.
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
The wiki page on Rice mentions that he died in Rathmines in 1956, and the record of his death aged 84 in 1959 confirms he was still at 2 Northbrook Road as on the poster, occupation State Council (retired). He wrote K.C. on the poster, which was rather West Brit of him since the title of Senior Counsel was used in Ireland since 1924 instead of King's Counsel.
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
I'd say 147 Nth Circular Road is unchanged, the terrace dates to c1900 per the NIAH.
Margaret Collins-O'Driscoll lived at Carrigroe outside Clonakilty for the 1911 census.
Her address was 147 Nth Circular Road as on the poster on the record of her death in 1945 aged 67, and she is listed there as Collins O'Driscoll, unlike the 1911 census, when the Collins name was not yet legendary.
Posted: 21.12.2023
O Mac
Niall McAuley Belfield Park was a house in the townland of "Artaine West" (25") ... now Beaumount..
flic.kr/p/2pnQgAA
This is where it was.
goo.gl/maps/UCFrumQo2DHcAznF7
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/91549360@N03] OK, I see it on the 25" now at exactly your spot, thanks.
Bit of a stretch to say it's in Drumcondra.
Posted: 21.12.2023
suckindeesel
Niall McAuley Could Byrne’s and Rice’s pictures be transposed?
After all, Rice was the K.C.
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/184711311@N04] That is a really good thought! I don't think we are going to find a lot of portraits elsewhere to prove it, though.
Posted: 21.12.2023
nlpnt
Ranked-choice voting, in 1933...I hope Ireland knows, and is proud of, how advanced they are on that.
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
OK, maybe not - here is a Feb 1932 ad. They use the same pic of John J. Byrne, but a different pic of an older looking Vincent Rice.
Posted: 21.12.2023
suckindeesel
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/30369211@N00/] J.J. still sporting the wig in the 1932 poster, strange
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
He does claim a BL in 1933, so could be a barrister.
Posted: 21.12.2023
Niall McAuley
Rice, a K.C. in 1933:
In 1949, shortly before the coming into force of the Republic of Ireland Act 1948 which broke the final link with the Crown, Frank Aiken asked John A. Costello in Dáil Éireann "whether, in view of the fact that certain members of the Inner Bar who received their patents as senior counsel continue to describe themselves as king's counsel, he will introduce a Bill entitled an Act to declare that the description of a senior counsel shall be senior counsel"; however, Costello said he had "no intention of wasting public time and money" on this.
Posted: 21.12.2023
