[Pupils of Synge Street, Christian Brothers School, Dublin]
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In collection: | Keogh Photographic Collection |
Format: | Photo |
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1941
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Notes: | Additional information about this photograph may be available on the National Library of Ireland's Flickr Commons photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/7089812507 Physical description: 1 photographic negative glass 16.5 x 12 cm. more |
Gorgeous class photo from Synge Street School in Dublin. Love the facial expressions and the haircuts, and look at the rebel (top left) with his hair parted on the right...
Would love to get names for some of these guys, and I'm sure we can do it!
rockface said: "Fr Tom Burke - co-founder of the Young Scientist of the Year is in this Class but don't know which one he is...yet! Sadly he passed away in 2008."
Date: 1941
NLI Ref.: Ke 308
Tags:
Synge Street, Synge Street School, School, Christian Brothers, Boys, Pupils, Students, Class Photo, Shorts, Socks, Plimsolls, Glasses, Pens, Blazers, 1941, 1940s, Forties, Dublin, Ireland, Leinster, Education, Brendan Keogh, Tackies, zipper, zip, fastener, Gutties, Sandshoes, Keogh Brothers, National Library of Ireland, Keogh Photographic Collection
Comments
Swordscookie
It is a very nice photo and they do make for a good looking group. Uncle Gaybo is yer man if you could contact him, he would have been there around then unless I am mistaken. Maybe he is even in there. The right hand parting is not the only one, that lad in the plimsolls or "tackies" as we called them in Limerick was in danger of the ire of the Christian Brothers for wearing those in the front row.
Posted: 18.04.2012
Nick Stewart2
Second from right, middle row. Were's your jacket boy?! Great photo.
Posted: 18.04.2012
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@swordscookie Swiftly checked an authoritative source (Wikipedia). Apparently Gay Byrne (famous Irish broadcaster) was born 5 August 1934, which'd make him only about 7 in 1941. I think that's a little younger than these chaps. And love tackies - have tagged for that...
Posted: 18.04.2012
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@56105315@N07 I wonder did he get in trouble, what with it being photo day and all?
Posted: 18.04.2012
Swordscookie
Gaybo's older brother who died a few years back (can't think of his name just now - AL?) was also in that school and also worked for RTE. The chap on the right on the middle row looks a lot like him. There's something about the chap 3rd from right in the front row next to the lad with the tackies that is very familiar and reminds me of a Barrister or politician.
Posted: 18.04.2012
Juffrouw Jo
Ah the good old days when kids still looked cool.
Such a long time ago.
Posted: 18.04.2012
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@swordscookie I know who you mean, but can't think of his name either!
I love 3rd from right on front row - very wry expression...
Posted: 18.04.2012
Juffrouw Jo
@nlireland Depressing to think how these boys would look if they had been photographed today.
Trousers falling down, long messy hair, ipods, bored looks, mobile phones, flashy sneakers, making US gang hand gestures, posing like "bad dudes", etc.
Posted: 18.04.2012
CHG PRO PHOTOGRAPHY incorporating the APL archives
Perhaps an attempt should be made to contact Gaybo and see if he recognizes any of these people? Can't find any contact email address for him, though, not even an agent contact!
Posted: 18.04.2012
John_McK1966
The class rebel extreme left, centre row!
Posted: 18.04.2012
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@apl-irl I'd imagine he has enough on his plate, but I will use Twitter, etc. to see if anyone can help with identification on this one...
Posted: 18.04.2012
blackpoolbeach
Note the lad wearing a crumpled casual zipper jacket. It looks out of place.
Maybe he was a visiting American.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipper
Posted: 18.04.2012
corncrake68
Not a pair of boots or wellies on show. As for the 'Tackies' or 'Gutties' as they were called around Cavan, we often wore 'Sandshoes' another name for them, to school but only in black. The white ones were generally worn by boys who played tennis, which ruled out the boys I went to school with. lol.
Posted: 18.04.2012
Peter Denton
Judging by the various eyelines, this may not have been the final photo - some of the kids are looking to their left, as if someone's talking to them, while others are looking at the camera... and the boy on the left in the front row hasn't yet positioned his hands together.
I love the fashion styles, too - shirt collars over the jackets, some jackets quite long (top and middle rows, right), a combination of ties and open necks - and, returning to the boy on the left in the front row, an open-necked shirt and a waistcoat! Now that's radical - though not as radical as the rebel in the tackies (new word for me... who says the internet dumbs down?!)
Oh - and what's so special about the boy on the right in the front row - why does he get the only chair with arms? Head boy? Prefect? Headmaster's son? Richest kid in Dublin? I think we should be told...
Posted: 18.04.2012
acrid home
Fr Tom Burke - co-founder of the Young Scientist of the Year is in this Class but don't know which one he is...yet! Sadly he passed away in 2008.
Posted: 18.04.2012
blackpoolbeach
@tammybeck I cannot remember any zipper jackets when I went to school in the late 1940s/early 1950s. One lad was sent home for wearing long trousers, age 10 years.
Posted: 19.04.2012
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@rockface Thanks a million for that! I'll add it into the description under the photo - may help to jog someone else's memory...
Posted: 19.04.2012
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@peterdenton The internet (on here anyway) absolutely does not dumb down! I learned tackies, gutties and sandshoes from this one...
Posted: 19.04.2012
blackpoolbeach
Trouser flies always seemed to be missing a button or two.
There was no cotton-polyester in those days.
All those jackets and shorts would have been wool-based.
Socks would have been wool, with elastic garters.
Shoes had leather uppers and soles. They went to the cobblers to be mended.
I always had a Platignum fountain pen that leaked ink on to my shirt.
I did not get trouser zips until the 1960s, after I had left school.
Posted: 19.04.2012
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@blackpoolbeach Wool-based and itchy, I bet. It's daft, but I can't comprehend a world without zips - bit like the Yoof of today not believing in a world without computers... :)
Posted: 19.04.2012
Swordscookie
@47290943@N03 Strange question for a well brought up young lady to ask?
@14302637@N08 You must have been very well off, we used inkwells right up to the early 1960's and dipped a stick-pen with replaceable nib on the business end into it. One year some of our lads discovered carbide for the old carbide bicycle lamps and if you put a tiny amount into an inkwell it foamed all over the place. It also changed the colour of the ink to a watery purple and we all got belted for writing with it! You never mentioned Overcoats - everybody had an overcoat be it wool, gaberdine etc. and they weighed a ton when they got wet and took ages to dry. Those were the days!!!
Posted: 19.04.2012
Christian Hermann Fotografie
the historic moment! lovely!
Posted: 19.04.2012
blackpoolbeach
@swordscookie I was the ink monitor for a while, filling up the inkwells with one of those big glass bottles.
Some lads used to steal obtain carbide from nearby coal mines, just to put into inkwells.
Woolworths sold Platignum fountain pens. Not the best quality. They had a rubber bladder inside.
All that wool clothing used to smell. I still smell, just for old-times sake.
Posted: 19.04.2012
Juffrouw Jo
I wear 1930s clothing every day, today.
But being a lady, I wouldn't really know about what gentleman's or boys clothing would feel like to wear.
But some of my male friends wear vintage clothing every day as well and I do have some mens and boys clothing from this era in my collection.
My clothes are either cotton or wool, I write my letters with nibpen and ink, have no tv, mobile phone, washing machine, etc.
The clothes do smell, especially after it has rained, but it is a lovely smell.
If you live the old fashioned way, your life has a lot of interesting smells that seem to have been replaced by everyone and everything smelling like "the wild freshness of lime" or something else chemical.
Zippers have been around for a long time but yes, most trousers had buttons back then, as they should!
Zippers came into common use in the 1930s, the marketing was aimed at children because it promoted self reliance.
Posted: 19.04.2012
corncrake68
Not a 'Gansey' in sight either. Have a look at this photo of boys of a similar age in a Cavan Town School in 1942. Different, to say the least.
flic.kr/p/bzUwr3
Posted: 19.04.2012
Ikatadmirer
Nice looking chairs. The chap on the right in the front row seems to be sitting on a three legged corner chair.
Posted: 23.04.2012
BADERandABDUL
BLACK &WHITE IMAGES ARE HISTORY BY ITSELF.NICE
Posted: 07.03.2015
nlpnt
Clearly this predates the "black-shoe" policy mentioned in the movie Sing Street. (Which makes me wonder - *was* there a Jesuit school in south Dublin in the '80s that *didn't* require black shoes?)
Posted: 21.01.2017
cairns_art
About zips on trousers... my father had a nasty moment on honeymoon with his first zipped trews! That was in August 1938. Carol C
Posted: 03.08.2019