W.J. Brennan Esq., Market Street, Tramore, full length portrait standing
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| In collection: | The Poole Photographic Collection |
| Format: | Photo |
| Language: | English |
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[ca. 8 July 1905]
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| Notes: | Formerly at call number P_WP_1476a Creation date based on date photographic order was placed; recorded in Index Book of the A. H. Poole Studio as: 8 July 1905. Forms part of: Poole Whole Plate series Additional information about this photograph is available on the National Library of Ireland's Flickr Commons photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/51160901066/ This description is derived from the original Index Books created at the A. H. Poole Studio. Physical description: 1 photograph : glass plate negative; 17 x 22 cm. more |
W.J. Brennan of Market Street, Tramore may have been the dedicated follower of fashion in 1905, but in 2021 he seems the perfect caricature of “Burlington Bertie from Bow”! We know the date, the name, the place. So what more can we find out about W.J. “Bertie” Brennan?
Photographer: A. H. Poole
Collection: Poole Photographic Collection, Waterford
Date: Saturday, 8 July 1905
NLI Ref: POOLEWP 1476a
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Tags:
A.H. Poole, Arthur Henri Poole, Glass Negative, National Library of Ireland, WJ Brennan, Market street, Tramore, boater hat, walking stick, Poole Photographic Collection, Waterford, Munster, Ireland, July, 1905, 1900s, 20th century, Saturday
Comments
John Spooner
Could he be the Dr W J Brennan of Dunmore East, who died suddenly "in the prime of life" in 1942? Keen on cricket, badminton and tennis. Left a widow and young family. "Behind a somewhat brusque and abrupt manner there was a generous heart" (Waterford Standard - Saturday 21 February 1942).
I'm not sure the ages match up satisfactorily, unless "prime of life" includes being in his 50s. (Guessing Bertie is in his teens in the photo and born circa 1890).
Posted: 06.05.2021
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
6 July 1905 was a Thursday ...
Posted: 06.05.2021
John Spooner
CIvil death records show WIlliam Joseph Brennon, medical practitioner, of "Sunnyside", Dunmore East, died Feb 1942 aged 55. Therefore born 1887-ish, so would be 18ish at the time of the Poole photo.
Posted: 06.05.2021
CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY
If indeed Dr. W.J. Brennan, then read third column, toward the bottom of this-
snap.waterfordcoco.ie/collections/enewspapers/dungarvan_o...
Posted: 06.05.2021
John Spooner
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/cassidyphotography] Hmm. Unlikely to be the doctor then, if he was born in Co Clare and came to Dunmore East via the British Army in Mesopotamia, and University in Cork and Edinburgh.
PS The Musselburgh News reports him winning a Territorial Sports long jump competition in Edinburgh on 21st June 1912.
Even if the Poole photo matches his time at Cork (18, just started his studies), the Tramore address doesn't fit.
Posted: 06.05.2021
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/cassidyphotography] "Native of Clare", 2 doctors in the family, odds are his father was a doctor too. A nun in there, so definitely RC.
I only see one doctor Brennan in Clare in 1901: www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Ballyglas...
Posted: 06.05.2021
derangedlemur
Census says William Brennan of Smithstown in Clare was 22 in 1911, so 53 rather than 55 at death, and was still in Smithstown .
Posted: 06.05.2021
derangedlemur
There's no W.J. Brennan in Tramore in either census, so he must have been off on his travels, whether at university or run off to sea to be a ship's cat.
Posted: 06.05.2021
derangedlemur
Possibly he was just in town for the wedding.
Posted: 06.05.2021
derangedlemur
There's a couple more shots of him, with a very furrowed brow and bags under his eyes. Has he been photoshopped a bit? catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000591673
Edit: Before & After - catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000591672 catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000591673. They've smoothed his furrowed brow, removed the double chin and stuck his arm behind his back.
Posted: 06.05.2021
derangedlemur
Actually, if you look at his hand in the before one, he looks about 40.
Posted: 06.05.2021
John Spooner
Dr William Brennan's brother Dr James Brennan died in Limerick in 1950. Their bereaved sister was Mrs Andrew Finn of Waterford.
Posted: 06.05.2021
John Spooner
There was also a Dr R.D.M Brennan who worked in mental health in Clare. He had previously been at Waterford Mental Hospital. (Waterford Standard - Saturday 22 October 1938)
Posted: 06.05.2021
Bernard Healy
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley]
Based on the family information given in the obituary, I'm pretty sure that this is the family of Dr Brennan - note the address Smithstown which was home to his brother at the time of his death: www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Clare/Clenagh/S...
Willie Brennan was 13 in 1901. So this matches as regards age too.
Posted: 06.05.2021
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy] Waterford Connection: Annie Brennan married Andrew Finn of Waterford, but not until 1920.
Posted: 06.05.2021
Bernard Healy
Here is Dr Brennan's marriage - in Limerick to a Clarewoman, Margaret O'Grady, in Dec 1922. He was already based in Dunmore East at that stage. civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marri...
I'm also wondering if these two death notices might just be of two of his sons:
notices.irishtimes.com/death/brennan/2399817?from_mobile=...
rip.ie/death-notice/brian-brennan-cabinteely-dublin/342798
Note the family names, and the fact that Killea seems to be the family burial place.
Posted: 06.05.2021
CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY
In the photo, above, this young man would be no more than 18 to 22.
Posted: 06.05.2021
John Spooner
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy] Don Brennan the banker was definitely his son. I saw a newspaper announcement that Don Brennan, son of the late Dr Brennan of Dunmore East, had passed his banking exams. (Waterford Standard - Saturday 05 June 1943)
Posted: 06.05.2021
oaktree_brian_1976
I need a straw hat like that.
Posted: 06.05.2021
Bernard Healy
If we're trying to connect Brennans to Market Street, Tramore. See this: catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000688527
Carte de visite commissioned by Miss M. Brennan, c/o Mrs Byrne, Market Street, Tramore
c.1921
The only Byrnes I can find on Market Street is here: www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Waterford/Tramo...
It hardly proves anything, but I suppose there could be some connection between the Brennans & the Byrne household on Market Street, Tramore.
Posted: 06.05.2021
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/bernardhealy] Interesting that it is Miss M. - on the record of William's birth, the very next entry is Mary Esther, his twin sister.
Williams mother was a Slattery, and Mrs. Byrne was a Browne, so it is not as simple as visiting their Aunt.
Posted: 07.05.2021
