![[Louie's arrival at Hodder. Two boys smiling wearing short pants standing at either side of an ornamental vase.]](/IIIF/000530000/000524038/vtls000524038_001.jp2/full/800,/0/default.jpg)
[Louie's arrival at Hodder. Two boys smiling wearing short pants standing at either side of an ornamental vase.]
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| Summary: | Children. |
| In collection: | Clonbrock Photographic Collection |
| Format: | Photo |
| Language: | English |
| Published / Created: |
[April 1898].
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| Notes: | Research by our Flickr Commons users established that 'Louie' was Louis Meldon, arriving at Hodder Place, a Jesuit boarding school near Clitheroe, Lancashire, England. Additional information about this photograph is available on the National Library of Ireland's Flickr Commons photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/46744735082/ Physical description: 1 photonegative : 12.5 x 10 cm. more |
Two main questions today on this photograph from our Clonbrock collection – Who is Louie? And where is Hodder? Bonus points for suggestions as to why these little chaps were so delighted with themselves...
Quickest off the mark (and undoubtedly on the ball) was sharon.corbet, who suggests that this is Louis Meldon on the occasion of his commencement at Hodder Place, a Catholic (Jesuit) boarding school in England. We've met the Meldon's before - as presumed relatives of the Dillon's of Clonbrock, there are more than a few of their family shots in that collection. And, indeed, Louis himself has cropped up more than once....
Photographers: Dillon family
Contributors: Luke Gerald Dillon, Augusta Caroline Dillon
Collection: Clonbrock Photographic Collection
Date: April 1898
NLI Ref: CLON1934
You can also view this image, and many thousands of others, on the NLI’s catalogue at catalogue.nli.ie
Tags:
Dillon Family, National Library of Ireland, Boys, April, 1898, 1890s, Louis Meldon, Hodder Place, Jesuits, Stonyhurst Prep School, George Meldon, Hurst Green, Clitheroe, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom, Location Identified, School, Boarding school, School boys, Meldon/Dillon, Meldon, BB7 9PP, Clonbrock Photographic Collection, 19th Century
Comments
sharon.corbet
This is Louis and George Meldon (we think). Hodder is an English Boarding School.
See here, for further detail:
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/23645258470]
Posted: 23.01.2019
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] Scary speedy, Sharon! So, delighted to be arriving at Boarding School?
Posted: 23.01.2019
sharon.corbet
Hodder Place info on wikipedia. It was the prep school for Stonyhurst.
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] That's what I thought - particularly finally joining his older brother.
Posted: 23.01.2019
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] So Louie is probably more properly Louis then. And as Hodder Place was near Clitheroe in Lancashire, that makes Louis an honorary Clitheroe Kid.
Posted: 23.01.2019
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Possibly the vase and steps are on the east (shaded) side of the building - Google satellite view - www.google.com.au/maps/place/Hodder+Place,+Knowles+Brow,+...
I think the young gentlemen are happy to find a tennis ball in the vase. Finders keepers!
Posted: 23.01.2019
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Frances Frith photo of the east side terraces - I can't see the vase - www.francisfrith.com/stonyhurst-college/stonyhurst-the-co...
The light on their faces is wrong for looking east - and the buttons on their coats are on the wrong side - I think the image needs flipping...
Posted: 23.01.2019
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Thanks [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia]. As soon as I can figure out why the mapping feature has stopped working for me, I'll be sure to update the location coordinates ;)
In the meantime I've updated to account for [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet]'s speedy inputs :)
Posted: 23.01.2019
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] That Frith image is c.1950 - 50 years of schoolboys may have put paid to the Greek urn.
("What's a Greek urn? Ten drachmas a week!")
Posted: 24.01.2019
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Putting you on the naughty step (behind the urn) for that ancient joke!
Posted: 24.01.2019
sharon.corbet
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] I don't think we ever actually figured out what the connection was between the Meldons and the Clonbrock family. The grandfather of the Louis Meldon here (Louis Jr.) was James Dillon Meldon, so there may have been a distant link, but it seems a bit too distant to explain why so many photos of the (probable) Meldon family was mixed in with the Clonbrock collection.
Posted: 24.01.2019
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet] The 1911 census says Rose Meldon was born in Co. Galway, and includes "Irenan" Dora Kenny, a Relative, also born in Co. Galway, 6 years younger than Rose.
Could Rose have been Rose Kenny from near Clonbrock?
Posted: 24.01.2019
Niall McAuley
Rose would have been born around 1855, married in 1884ish.
Posted: 24.01.2019
sharon.corbet
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] I somehow decided the last time round that she was the daughter of George Comyn Kenny from Longford Castle, Co. Galway. Which Google claims is about 35 km from Ahascragh.
Posted: 24.01.2019
Niall McAuley
Witness Marian Dora Kenny is surely the "Irenan" Dora Kenny in the census.
Posted: 24.01.2019
sharon.corbet
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] She's with her brother in 1901 which aso confirms the Comyn Kenny bit.
Posted: 24.01.2019
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Sorry to interrupt the genial genealogists - second thoughts about the precise location ...
There are carriage wheel marks in the bottom of the photo, which means they are on the circular driveway, SE of the building. Another Frances Frith photo (try saying that with a mouthful of toast!) shows the two plinths either side of a dark shrub - www.francisfrith.com/stonyhurst-college/stonyhurst-the-co...
And Flickr is sometimes amazing! There is a wall there now - in 2011 via [https://www.flickr.com/photos/50070022@N08/] [https://www.flickr.com/photos/50070022@N08/6423817261]
Posted: 24.01.2019
Niall McAuley
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] I think it is a hedge rather than a wall...
Posted: 24.01.2019
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/gnmcauley] Yes! www.flickr.com/photos/50070022@N08/7685615230/
Posted: 24.01.2019
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Indeed - Thanks [https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorbet]. I've changed it to "presumed" rellies :)
Thanks for the extra refinement on the location [https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia]. Although, unfortunately, the mapping feature still seems to be borked for me. (No matter what browser or computer I use, the map displays as entirely blank. And so doesn't allow me to set a location for the image.)
Posted: 24.01.2019
