Statue of Queen Victoria, Dublin City, Co. Dublin

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Bibliographic Details
Main Creator: French, Robert, 1841-1917 photographer
Contributors: Lawrence, William, 1840-1932
In collection: The Lawrence Photograph Collection
Format: Photo
Published / Created: [between ca. February 1908-1914].
Subjects:
Notes:Additional information about this photograph is available on the National Library of Ireland's Flickr Commons photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/8409924813

Robert French was the chief photographer responsible for photographing three quarters of the Lawrence Collection. For more information, see the Dictionary of Irish Biography: http://dib.cambridge.org/viewReadPage.do?articleId=a3369

Physical description: 1 negative : glass ; 22 x 17 cm

Geographic Coverage: Dublin City, County Dublin, Province of Leinster, Ireland.

Caption on glassplate reads: Queen Victoria Memorial. Dublin. 9648. W. L.

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It's a while since we saw a photo featuring our lovely building here in Dublin, even though we're just playing a supporting role to the star of this one - a statue of Queen Victoria. Uploading this because gerry.heaney has some queries about the statue...
Date: After 15 February 1908 (when statue was unveiled)
NLI Ref.: L_ROY_09648

Comments

SolitudeWays.
Magnifica!
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
heady school
So much nicer without the railings. Isn't the statue in Australia now?
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
derangedlemur
Is it a boer war memorial or is there just a sleepy soldier under it for fun?
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
derangedlemur
And speaking of fun, there should be bronze knockers on the doors to facilitate our senses of humour.
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
martindevlin
Bronz Knockers indeed ! we are getting ideas above ones station. We only had Brass Knockers in Dublin, the bronze ones were right clangers.
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
Swordscookie
According to an article in "The Journal" on 28th July last the statue was given to the land of Oz in the 1980's. they had been looking for one for the Victoria Building in Sydney and we were the only country with a statue of Queen Vic they did not want. It was very impressive but I could see why that particular location might rankle.
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
@eyelightfilms @swordscookie The statue (cropped a bit) in Sydney - goo.gl/maps/SRtTkVYtiwz
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
John Spooner
According to a report in the London Times of Feb 17th 1908, the unveiling took place on the 15th.
On the right hand of the figure a group, also in bronze, represents a wounded Irish soldier receiving a laurel crown from a symbolical figure of Erin. On the left is a bronze group embodying the figure of Peace, and at the back of the stature there is a bronze figure of Fame. In addition there are three small figures in the upper portion of the triangle representing Science, Literature, and Art. The whole memorial finds an effective setting in the small but beautiful expanse of Leinster Lawn, and has for a background a combination of some of the most handsome buildings in Dublin.

Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
More about the provenance - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Victoria_Building#Exterior_fe..., and the Irish sculptor John Hughes
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
John Spooner
The cost was about £7,000, raised by public subscription. Hughes executed the work in Paris, and the erection was carried out by a French firm.
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
There's a good post about this statue on the always excellent Come Here to Me! blog - so Erin and the wounded soldier are now in Dublin Castle?
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
heady school
Shamelessly blowing my own, or at least my family trumpet, but the National Library itself was designed by a distant cousin of mine, Cork architect Thomas Manly Deane.
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Queen Victoria Memorial limerick Victoria, our Dearest Old Queen - Perched high on the NLI Green - Not amused by the mockers Of French-firm bronze knockers - Now upside-down-under she's seen.

Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
his restless eyes
A heritage
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
gerry heaney
the statue is in sidney , since 1974 ,but the remains of the pliant are in the the graveyard the royal hospital , the o.p.w staff only uncovered them in the last few weeks,they are in the the one called the bullys acre . i don't know if it is open to the public , i will put some photos up on my flikr page soon regards gerry
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@eyelightfilms Go away! How distant a cousin? Here's an unexecuted Deane design on Archiseek.
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@beachcomberaustralia Bualadh bos! (Away to Google Translate with you...)
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@56284528@N07 Thanks Gerry. It'd be great to see the photos of the plinth...
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
Swordscookie
@beachcomberaustralia Gawd for an auld wan she had a fair auld besom! I've a weakness for Limericks, nice one!
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
John A. Coffey
My late Father use to say"John,you were a great sub for Victoria" She was removed July 22nd 1948 and I arrived the same day, just down the road (Holles Street).
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
archiseek
@nlireland A few other unexecuted designs archiseek.com/tag/national-museum-of-ireland/
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
heady school
@nlireland According to my "Mac Family Tree", he's my first cousin three times removed, although I never knew any of this until about 2 years ago. My great-great-grandfather's sister, Henrietta Manly, married Thomas Newenham Deane in 1850, and Thomas Manly Deane was their first child, born in 1851 in my great-great-great-grandfather's house in Cork. The house was called "Ferney" and stood about here, near the south end of the Jack Lynch Tunnel. Long since gone, but there is a Ferney Road. Thomas Manly Deane had a son, also called Thomas, who was killed at Gallipoli, and a daughter called Mary Primrose, but I've no further info on her.
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
Billy Quinn 1954
I went to College beneath that colonnade tucked away in the upper right at the National College of Art and Design. At one infamous moment, we, the student body, barricaded ourselves into the building for about 10 days in protest at the suspension of Charlie Harper, Charlie Cullen, and Alice Hanratty. It was the early seventies, we fancied ourselves as communards. My abiding memory was the lack of toilet facilities and the janitors ringing bells at night so we could not sleep.
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
Billy Quinn 1954
I just remembered that our 'leader' (of our proletariat insurrection at NCAD) was Brian Maguire, who later became head of the same institution. I am pleased to say that we are still in touch, although our rebellious youth seems like eons ago. In those days (with our youthful passion) we would have torn down this statue (but it was long gone).
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
eyair
[http://www.flickr.com/people/56284528@N07] some "leftovers" are in Bully's Acre at Kilmainham indeed: @eyair/6088185782 @eyair/6087639795 The cemetery is normally not open to public. However, they do run a few tours during heritage events.
Posted: 24.01.2013  
 
Niall McAuley
The statue was not replaced by another, the courtyard now has a few seats at this spot. You can see an aerial view at Google maps.
Posted: 25.01.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@gnmcauley And is called The Plinth to this day...
Posted: 25.01.2013  
 
ccferrie
As far as I recall some of the figures at the base are now situated at the entrance to Leinster House 2000 (through the collonade at the top right of the picture)
Posted: 26.01.2013  
 
 
ccferrie
Based on previous comments this must be Peace & Fame
Posted: 26.01.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@beachcomberaustralia That's really interesting about the sculptor, John Huges, thank you. He attended the Metropolitan School of Art (note on doorway in photo above, between Library Towers and Leinster House), and then went on to produce the statue outside it on Leinster Lawn...
Posted: 26.01.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@archiseek Thanks, Paul! Don't know if I'd be mad on that (unexecuted) "columned screen"...
Posted: 26.01.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@eyelightfilms Have you ever visited the National Library building? It'd be interesting for you to see your relative's work "in the flesh".
Posted: 26.01.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@mutter_fluffer And did you know that your old school, now the newest part of Library Towers, was converted some years ago? We still call it the NCAD (National College of Art and Design). Downstairs is our exhibition space, filled by Yeats at the moment, and Joyce before that (2004-2006). Upstairs is aptly our Prints & Drawings Department, so art is alive and well there...
Posted: 26.01.2013  
 
KenjiB_48
I don't imagine the Widow ever touched a "besom" in her life...:-)
Posted: 26.01.2013  
 
oaktree_brian_1976
Where's your office Carol? Through the single door on the 2nd floor, left building? hehe
Posted: 27.01.2013  
 
oaktree_brian_1976
Here's a fuzzy photo from 1907, apparently Vicky's statue wasn't up yet... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dublin,_Nationalbiblioteket,_N...
Posted: 27.01.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@66151649@N02 Wish it was my office! If you went in that door and looked up, here's what you'd see.
Posted: 27.01.2013  
 
oaktree_brian_1976
@nlireland Quite the view. I'll have to visit one day!
Posted: 27.01.2013  
 
Billy Quinn 1954
Yes, I knew. I was in the library last summer, on a visit from Amsterdam.
Posted: 28.01.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@mutter_fluffer And you visited our Reading Room?
Posted: 28.01.2013  
 
Billy Quinn 1954
Yes, we visited the reading room. I knew the building well from my student days of having lunch on the steps. I had Stephen Dedalus fantasies in those days, and the library was central to these. These fantasies somehow morphed into including the British Library reading room, and the New York City Library reading room. I love these 'places of worship'. Your reading room started a progression of sorts. I was pleased to bring friends from abroad to see it. It is beautiful, but, as in most phenomena from youthful memories, it was smaller than I remembered.
Posted: 29.01.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@8468254@N02 Could you check your Flickr Mail please? Sent you a mail last week...
Posted: 29.01.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@mutter_fluffer Lovely to hear, thanks!
Posted: 29.01.2013  
 
nannyjean35
wonderful
Posted: 31.01.2013  
 
juliettethorp
@eyelightfilms Sir Thomas Manly Deane was my great grandfather. His daughter Mary Primrose Deane married Capt. Andrew Fenwick Thorp (from Newcastle) and their (only) daughter Juliette Maeve Isobel Primrose Thorp was my mother. Sir Thomas M. Deane also had a son Thomas Alexander David Deane who was killed in action at Gallipoli with the Royal Dublin Fusiliers. @eyelightfilms
Posted: 11.02.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@eyelightfilms Made an attempt to work out how you and @93182984@N08 are related, but ended up with a headache...
Posted: 12.02.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Any of you interested in the architecture of Library Towers might like to have a look at this - how our building was recreated for a short animated film. Think Thomas Newenham Deane would approve...
Posted: 21.02.2013  
 
heady school
@nlireland I was there last August, but ended up in the other building down towards Nassau St, where I found some interesting family documents. Must put some pictures of those up here sometime.
Posted: 26.02.2013  
 
 
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
Controversy over ownership of the statue... www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/john-bruton-objected-to-...
Posted: 01.01.2017  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/beachcomberaustralia] Is the statue really placed outside a shopping arcade?
Posted: 02.01.2017  
 
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
[https://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland] Yes, outside the Queen Victoria Building (1898) a rather fine old market hall - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Victoria_Building Streetview - goo.gl/maps/YyrCbuWF99T2 . It is not nearly as imposing without that plinth.
Posted: 02.01.2017  
 
CASSIDY PHOTOGRAPHY
I propose a statue of Gerry Adams be placed there, instead.
Posted: 01.06.2018