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[Armoured train at Inchicore Works]
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| In collection: | Hogan Photographic Collection. |
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2nd December 1922.
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| Notes: | Information from users of NLI Flickr Commons: Members of the Railway Protection Repair and Maintenance Corps at Inchicore Works, Dublin, converting Lancia Armoured Cars for use on railways. This work was carried on between 1921 and 1923. Over 50 original open top Lancia Armoured Cars were converted at Inchicore, but only 7 were converted to rail cars. The road or highway version of the Lancias converted at Inchicore were used by the Irish army until WWII, and were known as the ''Hooded Terrors''. No Lancia rail cars survive, although one was kept in a siding at Inchicore until the 1950s. This photograph was printed in the Sunday Independent, 3rd December 1922, with the following caption: ''A NEW PATROL CAR. Armoured Lancia and Crossley cars are now being made at Inchicore works. Photo shows a new pattern of single turreted car to travel either on road or rail. These cars are proving of great use in these trying times.'' Additional information about this photograph may be available on the National Library of Ireland's Flickr Commons photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/5736907701/ Physical description: 1 photographic print ; 11 x 16 cm. more |
NLI Ref.: HOG101
Comments
RETRO STU
Would that be the Civil War period (post-WW1)?
Posted: 30.05.2011
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Bit later, Stu - circa 1923. Hadn't added date, have fixed that now...
Posted: 30.05.2011
Pechristener
Lancia Armoured car converted for use on railway by the Railway Protection Repair and Maintenance Corps at Inchicore Works from 1921 to 1923. Approx 50 in total have been produced.
Posted: 02.06.2011
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Thanks for that, Peter! D'you know where any of them are now (if any survived)?
Posted: 02.06.2011
Pechristener
No armoured Lancia in the rail version survived, but three trucks in the highway version are still existing and can be found in the following museums:
- Ulster Folk and Transport Museum, Holywood
- Royal Ulster Constabulary (RUC) Museum, Belfast
- Museo della Motorizz. Militare della Cecchignola, Rome, Italy
The base of the armoured vehicle was the Lancia Triota truck. More information about the armoured Lancia on rails can be found in the following book:
Martin, Karl (2002): "Irish Army Vehicles, transport and armour since 1922".
Karl Martin. ISBN 0-9543413-0-9 (see pages 5 - 8).
Posted: 03.06.2011
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
And here's Karl Martin's book: catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000194290 Will haul it off the shelves and have a look, thanks!
Posted: 03.06.2011
gamy hydrant
The photo is indeed an armoured lancia rail car. The photo can be dated to pre 3/12/1922 as it appeared in a period newspaper of the day, on that date. Over fifty of the original open top armoured lancia cars were converted at the works but only seven were converted to rail cars and only two of them had turretts. The road going version of the inchicore converted lancias served with the irish army ontill ww11 and were known as the "hooded terrors". As peetthephotographer says there are no rail car survivors however there was one in a sideing at the works as late as the 1950s.
there are three survivores of the original open top armoured lancia.
(1) Ulster folk museum Belfast. restored by the RUC in the 90s
(2) Rome museum Italy restored by a Mr Tony oliver in 1973 and later sold to the museum
(3) Scotland with a private collector restored in the mid 70s
I have more info on my flickr page.
www.flickr.com/photos/vintary/sets/72157627096555484/
Posted: 02.07.2011
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Thanks for all this, vintary. Can you remember the newspaper title? Would like to have a look at it... And you might like this:
catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000194345/Image?lookfor=http:...
Posted: 02.07.2011
gamy hydrant
Sunday Independent page three 3/12/1922....
Posted: 02.07.2011
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Excellent, thanks - will check that out on Monday.
Posted: 02.07.2011
painting in light
I thought this related piece of newsreel would be of interest.
www.britishpathe.com/video/armoured-cars-1/query/inchicore
It's from British Pathe and covers the building of these armoured cars at Inchicore in 1922.
Posted: 21.06.2012
gamy hydrant
I agree "painting in light" that is an excellent video.
Posted: 21.06.2012
