[Street view, Mountmellick, Co. Laois]

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Bibliographic Details
In collection: Eason Photographic Collection
Format: Photo
Published / Created: Friday, 26 May 1911.
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Notes:Original date range for this photograph was between 1900 and 1920. Research by our Flickr Commons users established a date of Friday, 26 May 1911.

Additional information about this photograph is available on the National Library of Ireland's Flickr Commons photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/8741021052

Physical description: 1 photographic negative glass 12 x 16 cm.

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This photograph was irresistible because of the Holy Grail of not just one but two news posters that are for once (Huzzah!) legible.
I've uploaded a detail of the two posters for clarity. I'm getting Friday May [??], but if that combination of headlines doesn't help date this one, then I'm giving up and running away to join a circus or maybe even The London Clown Cricketers!
Date: Friday, 26 May 1911 (Thank you, John Spooner!)
NLI Ref.: Eas 2731

Comments

derangedlemur
If it's 1911 the census should be our friend.
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@8468254@N02 Good thinking, Batman!
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
 
John Spooner
The posters mention "Letter from Mr J Redmond" and "Home Rule Finance" London Times Saturday 27th May 1911 "The following letter from Mr John Redmond appeared in the Dublin newspapers yesterday ..." The letter mentions finance of the Home Rule Bill. There is also lots of stuff about the Imperial Conference, which had begun that week. So I'd say Friday 26th May 1911. I'd put my house shed on it.
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
 
derangedlemur
William McEvoy lives around the corner in Forge St. and is retired in 1911.
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
derangedlemur
The OSI is 1907 and has a Patrick Street on it, but the 1911 census appears to have Patrick street divided up between Forge St. (which they've called Force St. throughout) and Market St. so maybe McEvoy lives over the shop after all.
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
Niall McAuley
I think part of this street is called Henry Street in the census. Here is Sarah Harte, Stationer.
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
Abaraphobia
@johnspooner Can't get much more accurate than that!!
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
Niall McAuley
Here is another nli shot labelled Henry Street, Mountmellick, although neither Google Maps nor the OSI site show any such street .
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
I'm happy (deliriously so) with @johnspooner's suggestion of Friday, 26 May 1911! I've trawled through the Irish Times for that date - column by column - and from the headlines on the news poster, I found 5 that tallied with headlines or articles... Phew, won't have to run away to the circus! P.S. also in the next day's issue of the Irish Times, Saturday, 27 May 1911:
The National Library of Ireland will be closed to-day, the day gazetted for the celebration of the King's birthday.

Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
John Spooner
On Sept 8th 1884, William McEvoy, of Forge St, Mountmellick, wrote to Freeman's Journal in his capacity as treasurer of the Mountmellick Branch of the Irish National League, enclosing a cheque for five pounds towards the O'Brien fund (thereby taking the fund to £2,284 14s 9d).
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
John Spooner
@nlireland What about the Wexford Millionaires? Do you have the Irish Independent for that day?
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@johnspooner Not online, unfortunately! Will try to have a look at microfilm when I'm working in the Reading Room this p.m.
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
John Spooner
Under the heading "Domestic Servants wanting Places" Freeman's Sept 21 1895:
HOUSEMAID; country Girl, 19, good experience and discharges; can wash and make up; fond of children; understands general housework. Lizzie Lalor, care of Miss Young, Forge street, Mountmellick
If she's advertising in Freeman's, presumably she'd be amenable to a move to the Big City? I'm reminded of Mary Fitzgerald, in "Strumpet City", who moved from the country (Cork?) to domestic service with the Bradshaws in Kingstown. PS looks like she didn't end up quite like Mary. The 1901 census shows Lizzie Lalor aged 27 (???) at 13 Forge St, married, housekeeper, daughter of 67-year-old labourer Margaret Payne(!!!) . Is she mother of Anne, William and Daniel Lalor, grandchildren of Margaret? PPS More likely it's Elizabeth Lalor of Moore St (24 in 1901, 35 in 1911) housekeeper and single. Looks like nothing came of the jobseeking attempt in Freeman's.
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
Swordscookie
@nlireland/ 'ere???? You're just back from holliers and now you want to shut up shop for Paul O'Connell's birthday:-). This ties in nicely with the recent launch of the news from that era online.
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@johnspooner I found the Millionaires! Will add text asap...
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@swordscookie I'll try anything once! :)
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
Presenting the Wexford Millionaires of the news poster! From Irish Independent of Friday, 26 May 1911:
BIG BAG OF NUGGETS Wexford Men's Good Fortune Amongst the passengers who will sail for England [from New York] to-morrow are two Irish brothers, Messrs. Stephen and Patrick O'Donoghue, of Wexford, who are returning home after a particularly successful mining venture in South America. The brothers are taking with them a large bag of gold nuggets, which imaginative newspaper men have valued at over one and a quarter million dollars. As, however, it would be a large bag that would hold some 5,000lbs. of gold, this valuation is undoubtedly too generous. The brothers purchased for the small sum of 5,000 dollars a mine in Bolivia which had been abandoned in 1901, and it is reliably stated that the gold output is valued at the splendid total of 1,300,000 dollars. The owners of so much treasure are naturally attracting considerable attention amongst their fellow-passengers, and a horde of reporters and photographers are clamouring for a sight of the bag of nuggets.

Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
John Spooner
@nlireland Fascinating. I wonder what happened to them. I can't find them on any 1911 New York passenger lists.
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
John Spooner
What the "horde of reporters" was writing: The Evening World.(New York), May 25, 1911
PROOF OF THEIR BONANZA The O'Donohues Are on Their Way to Visit the Old Folks in Ireland Stephen and Patrick O'Donohue are here to sail on the White Star liner Cedric Saturday for Wexford town, Ireland, with a a bag of gold nuggets to gladden the eyes of the "folk in the old country." Ten years ago Stephen, now thirty-three, went to work in a tin mine in Bolivia. Soon he sent for his brother. They heard of an abandoned tin mine near La Paz, raised $5,000, and took title. They said it has turned out to be rich in gold and tin, and that they have refused more than $1,200,000 for it. Two brothers remain on watch at the mine. The O'Donohues arrived on the Orotava, the passengers on which they presented with gold nuggets. They are taking a native boy to Dublin to be educated.

Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
John Spooner
Found them - RMS Cedric from New York. Patrick and Stephen O'Donohoe are listed as 1st class passengers, nationality USA, along with Joseph O'Donohoe, (with a tick in the 'children between 1 and 12' box) nationality Chilean. Arrived Queenstown 4th June 1911. RMS Orotava
Posted: 15.05.2013  
 
John Spooner
Very tangential fact: William Henry Taylor was a fireman on the Orotava. His next ship was the RMS Titanic. He survived her maiden voyage, but was killed in an accident at Southampton Docks in 1914. Titanic survivor William Henry Taylor
Posted: 16.05.2013  
 
Inverarra
@johnspooner Great "dig out".
Posted: 16.05.2013  
 
blackpoolbeach
A gold mine is a hole in the ground with a fool at the bottom and a liar at the top.
Posted: 16.05.2013