Saw Mill, Foynes

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Bibliographic Details
Main Creator: French, Robert, 1841-1917 photographer
Contributors: Lawrence, William, 1840-1932
In collection: The Lawrence Photograph Collection
Format: Photo
Published / Created: [Circa 1890].
Subjects:
Notes:Additional information about this photograph is available on the National Library of Ireland's Flickr Commons photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/5622381153/

Robert French was the chief photographer responsible for photographing three quarters of the Lawrence Collection. For more information, see the Dictionary of Irish Biography: http://dib.cambridge.org/viewReadPage.do?articleId=a3369

Physical description: 1 photographic negative glass 16.5 x 21.5 cm.

Geographic Coverage: Foynes, County Limerick, Province of Munster, Ireland.

Caption on glassplate reads: Saw Mill. Foynes. 4268. W. L.

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Delighted to hear this from Gerard in Ireland: "It is told in my family that the bearded man with hat is Jeremiah O'Connor manager of the sawmill and resident in the large house shown. He died 1922. I am his great grandson."
This photo was taken probably by Robert French, chief photographer of William Lawrence Photographic Studios of Dublin.
You can compare this view of the Sawmill at Foynes with its companion photo taken approximately 90 years later as part of the Lawrence Photographic Project 1990/1991, where one thousand photographs from the Lawrence Collection in the National Library of Ireland were replicated a hundred years later by a team of volunteer photographers, thereby creating a record of the changing face of the selected locations all over Ireland.
For further information on the Lawrence Photographic Project, read all about it on our NLI Blog.
Date: Circa 1890??
NLI Ref.: L_ROY_04268

Comments

Niall McAuley
A Streetview of those buildings from a point at the right middle of shot, behind the seawall, at the top of those steps. The OS 25" names this as St. Patrick's Sawmill. Not sure how St. Patrick feels about that!
Posted: 28.03.2012  
 
Niall McAuley
NIAH says the sawmill is from 1863.
Posted: 23.01.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
As you can see from Niall's comments above, this one had been in our Munsterset for quite some time (neglected by everyone but him). It just happens to be the Then of the Lawrence Photographic Project Now photograph - Now being 1990, but we won't fall out over 23 years... :)
Posted: 13.03.2013  
 
derangedlemur
Well it's after 1844 anyway. That's the date on the 6" and it's not on that.
Posted: 13.03.2013  
 
derangedlemur
In fact, after 1858 - the railway's there already.
Posted: 13.03.2013  
 
Niall McAuley
I've added a note above the cliff face - I see a railing up there. Comparing the 1844 6" and the 1898 25", that path goes up the hill to a Spring Rice memorial. The NIAH dates that memorial as 1890-1910, not much help.
Posted: 13.03.2013  
 
derangedlemur
@gnmcauley While I think, from the line of the hill, that you're correct that there's a path there, I think your railling is a fallen tree. (Not particularly helpful criticism, I know, but we get the real gen on these pictures because we're pedants).
Posted: 13.03.2013  
 
Swordscookie
I was curious about the Spring-Rice memorial as the one I am more familiar with is in the Peoples Park in the city centre close to the Railway Station. It seems that it is a cross erected by the tenants of the Mount Trenchard and Ballycormick estates. This was erected some time after 1865 so that will not help here. see www.limerickcity.ie/media/letter%20to%20lord%20monteagle.pdf It seems that Spring-Rice was a decent auld sod and treated his tenants well.
Posted: 13.03.2013  
 
tagless threads
Love it!
Posted: 15.03.2013  
 
billh35
The chaps are actually debating inventing seaplanes and then flying people to the USA from Foynes so that they could invent "Irish Coffee" to quell seasickness at Foynes! It's true Foynes was the birthplace of Irish Coffee. (And it was actually invented by Pan Am!)
Posted: 25.03.2013  
 
Gerard in Ireland
It is told in my family that the bearded man with hat is Jeremiah O'Connor manager of the sawmill and resident in the large house shown. He died 1922. I am his great grandson
Posted: 05.07.2013  
 
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@92onthehills Hello Gerard, and apologies for slow reply! Thank you very much for your information. I've added a note on Jeremiah in the photo and in the description above.
Posted: 05.08.2013  
 
Niall McAuley
Here is Jeremiah O'Connor, Sawmill Director, in the 1911 census, and here in 1901.
Posted: 18.01.2016  
 
Niall McAuley
catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000322338 in the archive is before 1915, shows the c1910 de vere fountain/cross, and has the sawmill covered in the creeper that is just starting in today's shot. Consistent with this being before 1900.
Posted: 05.01.2024