Main Street, Bandon, Co. Cork
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| In collection: | The Lawrence Photograph Collection |
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| Notes: | Additional information about this photograph is available on the National Library of Ireland's Flickr Commons photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/nlireland/9650264133 Robert French was the chief photographer responsible for photographing three quarters of the Lawrence Collection. For more information, see the Dictionary of Irish Biography: http://dib.cambridge.org/viewReadPage.do?articleId=a3369 Physical description: 1 photographic negative glass 16.5 x 21.5 cm. Geographic Coverage: Bandon, County Cork, Province of Munster, Ireland. Caption on glassplate reads: St. Bandon. Co. Cork. 8991. W. L. more |
At first glance, this looked like many of our other Main Street photos, but what did Robert French (almost certainly) capture for us but a Barrel Piano on Main Street, Bandon in Co. Cork! At least I think that's what it is in the bottom right corner? Oh, and there're also a few women in those amazing hooded cloaks! And how tasty does this bread sound - "Triticumina" Bread as supplied to Her Majesty the Queen...
Photographer: Almost certainly Robert French of Lawrence Photographic Studios, Dublin
Date: Circa 1900?
NLI Ref.: L_ROY_08991
Tags:
Main Street, Bandon, Cork, Ireland, Munster, Shops, Awnings, Tanner, Cloak, Horses, Carts, Window Boxes, Gas Lighting, Nagle, Tailor, Medical Hall, O'Riordan, Gallaher's, Army & Navy Plug, Tobacco, Parasol, Hats, Confectionery, Bread, Triticumina, Starkey, Barrel Piano, Donkey, Robert French, William Lawrence, Lawrence Collection, Glass Negative, National Library of Ireland, Barrel Organ, Mary Starkey, Richard Starkey, Hatoriffic, South Main Street, Bank of Ireland, Jinny, limerick by beachcomber
Comments
John Spooner
No mention of Bandon
Freeman's Journal and Daily Commercial Advertiser, Friday, May 12, 1893
Freeman's Journal and Daily Commercial Advertiser, Friday, May 12, 1893Posted: 02.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@johnspooner So later than May 1893, John, if not in the first flush of commercial take up by shops?
Posted: 02.09.2013
derangedlemur
Looks like one of these yokes: www.museumoflondon.org.uk/Collections-Research/Research/Y...
Posted: 02.09.2013
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
I think it might be a barrel organ with the doors closed so you can't see the pipes - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_organ .
Sounding something like these - youtu.be/6HzVi-TWekw
Posted: 02.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@8468254@N02 Very like your second option and yes, @beachcomberaustralia probably barrel organ is more correct. Like a bit of Cockney rhyming slang though. Uncle Fred here will translate anything you want to say...
Posted: 02.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@79549245@N06 Thanks Danny, and you'll like this - a 6 year old on the 1911 England/Wales census, check out the occupation!
Posted: 02.09.2013
CreativeAnto
I live just down the road from Bandon in Donoughmore, Co. Cork. Amazing photo of a great town. The gateway to West Cork.
Posted: 02.09.2013
Niall McAuley
The Bank of Ireland at left is from 1879.
Posted: 02.09.2013
Niall McAuley
Bandon apparently did not have electric lighting until after 1919:
Letter concerned with supplying the Town of Bandon with electric lighting. Dated 20 June 1919, from Joseph Brenan, Miller and Corn Merchant, Cool Fadda Mills addressed to John Coughlan Esquire, Clerk Town Commissioners of Bandon
Posted: 02.09.2013
DannyM8
@nlireland Brilliant, I have a 4 year old niece who has a PHD in the same profession.
Posted: 02.09.2013
guliolopez
Obligatory Streetview. [EDIT - 11 minutes after Niall. My refresh button must be banjaxed :) ]
Posted: 02.09.2013
Niall McAuley
The NIAH says most of these buildings are from 1800-1840, up to 1860. The bank is relatively recent!
Posted: 02.09.2013
La Belle Province
So many ladies in big wonderful dinnerplate hats, and as you said, Carol, the ones who aren't are wearing hooded cloaks. I'm used to seeing one or two women in a photo, but there's a flock and a half here.
Posted: 02.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@gnmcauley Interesting, Niall. I had thought that BAN... at extreme right would turn out to be a Bank of Ireland. Maybe another "make" of bank, or the start of BANDON something or other...
Posted: 02.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@20727502@N00 I made allowances for you being banjaxed on the grounds that you were probably over-excited by two Cork photos in a row... :)
Posted: 02.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@la_belle_province Have never seen as many of the cloaks! Someone will have to come up with a collective noun...
Posted: 02.09.2013
guliolopez
Given the "great minds" rule, Niall's streetview is almost certainly spot-on. But it does beg a question: Was South Main Street "re-numbered" at some point? (I wonder because Tanners on the left are listed on the 1901 census at #48, but the equivalent building today is numbered #16. And Starkey's on the right are listed on census at #16. But the equivalent building today is number #48).
Posted: 02.09.2013
O Mac
Have you tried ticumina?
Posted: 02.09.2013
John Spooner
I don't think Dr Douglas Hyde would have approved. In a lecture to the National Literacy Society on January 16 1894, it is reported (in Freeman's the following day) that
it seemed to him that the Irishmen of the present day should proceed immediately to de-Anglicise themselves. There were four things which he had singled out [1. gaelic literature 2. Irish names ] The third was a plea for their ancient music, and a protest against allowing the German band and the barrel-organ assume the place of the ancient Irish instrument, the bagpipes. [4 home-spun frieze and tweed]I wonder what he would have made of Irishwomen using Cockney rhyming slang.
Posted: 02.09.2013
DannyM8
I am looking forward to the Bandon Cloak Limerick. Is it sleeping time in Australia @beachcomberaustralia ?
Posted: 02.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@johnspooner Hoping not to be accused of being unpatriotic, but think I'd prefer listening to a barrel-organ than bag pipes. Do like Uileann pipes though...
Posted: 02.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@79549245@N06 Sleeping time in Australia has never stopped @beachcomberaustralia/ before...
Posted: 02.09.2013
DannyM8
Nothing Changes!
Proposal, that the local government board be requested to hold a sworn inquiry into
the present financial position and workings of the town commissioners (5 November
1900, p. 30) From www.corkarchives.ie/media/TC-BNweb.pdf
and
Letter of accusation from [F] Donavan regarding the removal of bricks by a town
commissioner from the Gas Works. Let the public see you are determined to bring
Mr Wm Crowley and anyone else implicated in this crime to a sense of their duty, the
public eye is watching you (3 December 1900, pp. 36 - 37)
Posted: 02.09.2013
O Mac
@20727502@N00 Census 'house numbers' had no relationship to actual number on house.
Posted: 02.09.2013
Niall McAuley
The building face-on at the far end of the street, over the bridge, is now The Bridge Bar, 1 Oliver Plunkett street. I can't find a date for it at the DIA or NIAH, but it looks to me as if this building was not there in 1901 when the OSI 25" was surveyed, the corner entrance looks to be different.
So, I think this photo is after 1901, and if anyone can find a date for that building...
Posted: 02.09.2013
guliolopez
@91549360@N03 Not always in my experience. We've seen plenty of cases where more diligent enumerators tracked the actual house numbers. (Rather than just counting doors as they walked down the street as may have been the case here.) I've seen more diligence especially on the house/building returns. Again, perhaps not in this case for one reason or another.
Posted: 02.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@gnmcauley My only quibble about a date too much later than 1901, Niall, is the bread advertisement, "Triticumina" Bread as supplied to Her Majesty the Queen. Queen Victoria died in January 1901. The lettering doesn't look old or faded, even if it wasn't changed to reflect His Majesty the King, if this photo was taken after 1901...
Posted: 02.09.2013
Niall McAuley
In the 1901 census, Michael Mohy, Postmaster, is right next to Starkey. On the OS 25" map, the P.O is marked on the right of Main Street. So, I think the building marked BAN at right is Bandon Post Office, before the 1907 move to the new building.
Posted: 02.09.2013
Niall McAuley
In this one from the nli archive, there are massive telephone poles right along the street! By 1911, Bandon Post Office had acquired a Lineman.
Posted: 02.09.2013
Niall McAuley
O'Riordan is interesting - no O'Riordans in 1901 census. In 1911, Kathleen O'Riordan is nearby, sister-in-law of Simon Farrell, Tobacconist Stationer.
Posted: 02.09.2013
Niall McAuley
In 1901, James Magahy, Organ Builder, was living on South Main Street.
Coincidence?
Posted: 02.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
"Prespitorian" William H. Birrell, also of South Main Street, Bandon was a Piano and Organ Tuner...
23 people listed as Organ Grinders in 1901 census, nobody in Cork.
Posted: 02.09.2013
guliolopez
The Jeffers family are also associated with the sale of musical instruments on South Main Street. (But I think they were still grocers at this time, and unless it was used for promotional purposes, a bit too posh for organ grinding.) In any event it seems that the organ-grinder has left his Joanna and Jinny outside while popping in to the post-office..
Posted: 02.09.2013
guliolopez
Ooh. There appears to be a series of letters from the younger of the two Starkey sisters (or perhaps her mother/relation of same name) hiding somewhere in Library Towers. Carol, could I trade my input to the "Great Shake-ee Mystery" for a look? (Or perhaps I'll cash-in my chips at the end of the night).
Posted: 02.09.2013
National Library of Ireland on The Commons
@20727502@N00 :( Have a look at Get This at the bottom of that link! They're over the wall in our neighbours, Trinity College.
Posted: 02.09.2013
TEXASJOHN
Very cool!
Posted: 02.09.2013
O Mac
an abandoned organ!
Posted: 02.09.2013
hockadilly
The women in hooded cloaks are intriguing - it seems to be a sunny day (boy squinting, other women in shirt-sleeves), but there they are, all bundled up. I'm always on the look-out for time-travellers in these photos... hmmmm...
Posted: 02.09.2013
ɹǝqɯoɔɥɔɐǝq
The Bandon Banjaxed Cloak Loiterers Limerick An old organ-grinder in Bandon His handle he had a firm hand on. Some folks in cloaks Almost had strokes - Ye who enter here, all hope abandon!
Posted: 02.09.2013
La Belle Province
@beachcomberaustralia Wild applause.
@hockadilly My theory is they're vampires, because they can't stand the sun's rays.
Posted: 02.09.2013
guliolopez
@la_belle_province @hockadilly Twas simply the fashion. Even on hotter days Irish women in mid/late 19th and early 20th century were seen in shawls, cloaks, hoods and the like. Sher didn't we see an example the other day? (Granted Mrs. Edmondson/Croker was American, but the fashion persisted til the 1920s at least).
Posted: 03.09.2013
KenjiB_48
One wonders if the hoods and cloaks were meant in some measure to protect the wearer's hair from dust, and their clothing from that and other detritus from the animal-traveled streets of the day..
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Posted: 03.09.2013
amandaduarte726
que linda imagem!
Posted: 09.09.2013
*anchor
My relatives have to be in that picture, but I don't know who? Slattery's Costello's and Daly's to name a few!!
Posted: 03.03.2014
Idakoos Store
Very nice
Posted: 16.03.2015
Sherilyn Sands
Old photos are like owning a time machine.....almost. :-)
Posted: 28.01.2016
